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# Math4201 Lecture 5 Bonus
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## Comparison of two types of topologies
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Let $X=\mathbb{R}^2$ and the two types of topologies are:
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The "circular topology":
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$$
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\mathcal{T}_c=\{B_r(p)\mid p\in \mathbb{R}^2,r>0\}
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$$
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The "rectangle topology":
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$$
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\mathcal{T}_r=\{(a,b)\times (c,d)\mid a,b,c,d\in \mathbb{R},a<b,c<d\}
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$$
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> Are these two topologies the same?
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### Comparison of two topologies
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#### Definition of finer and coarser
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Let $\mathcal{T}$ and $\mathcal{T}'$ be two topologies on $X$. We say $\mathcal{T}$ is finer than $\mathcal{T}'$ if $\mathcal{T}'\subseteq \mathcal{T}$. We say $\mathcal{T}$ is coarser than $\mathcal{T}'$ if $\mathcal{T}\subseteq \mathcal{T}'$. We say $\mathcal{T}$ and $\mathcal{T}'$ are equivalent if $\mathcal{T}=\mathcal{T}'$.
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$\mathcal{T}$ is strictly finer than $\mathcal{T}'$ if $\mathcal{T}'\subsetneq \mathcal{T}$. (that is, $\mathcal{T}'$ is finer and not equivalent to $\mathcal{T}$)
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$\mathcal{T}$ is strictly coarser than $\mathcal{T}'$ if $\mathcal{T}\subsetneq \mathcal{T}'$. (that is, $\mathcal{T}$ is coarser and not equivalent to $\mathcal{T}'$)
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<details>
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<summary>Example (discrete topology is finer than the trivial topology)</summary>
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Let $X$ be an arbitrary set. The discrete topology is $\mathcal{T}_1 = \mathcal{P}(X)=\{U \subseteq X\}$
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The trivial topology is $\mathcal{T}_0 = \{\emptyset, X\}$
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Clearly, $\mathcal{T}_1 \subseteq \mathcal{T}_0$.
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So the discrete topology is finer than the trivial topology.
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</details>
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#### Lemma
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> [!TIP]
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> Motivating condition:
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> We want $U$ be an open set in $\mathcal{T}'$, then $U$ has to be open with respect to $\mathcal{T}$. In other words, $\forall x\in U, \exists$ some $B\in \mathcal{B}$ such that $x\in B\subseteq U$.
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Let $\mathcal{T}$ and $\mathcal{T}'$ be topologies on $X$ associated with bases $\mathcal{B}$ and $\mathcal{B}'$. Then
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$$
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\mathcal{T}\text{ is finer than } \mathcal{T}'\iff \text{ for any } B'\in \mathcal{B}', \exists B\in \mathcal{B} \text{ such that } B'\subseteq B
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$$
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<details>
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<summary>Proof</summary>
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$(\Rightarrow)$
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Let $B'\in \mathcal{B}'$. If $x\in B'$, then $B'\in \mathcal{T}'$ and $T$ is finer than $T'$, so $B'\in \mathcal{T}$.
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Take $T=\mathcal{T}_{\mathcal{B}}$. $\exists B\in \mathcal{B}$ such that $x\in B\subseteq B'$.
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$(\Leftarrow)$
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Let $U\in \mathcal{T}$. Then $U=\bigcup_{\alpha \in I} B_\alpha'$ for some $\{B_\alpha'\}_{\alpha \in I}\subseteq \mathcal{B}'$.
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For any $B_\alpha'$ and any $x\in \mathcal{B}_\alpha'$, $\exists B_\alpha\in \mathcal{B}$ such that $x\in B_\alpha\subseteq B_\alpha'$.
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Then $B_\alpha'$ is open set in $\mathcal{T}$.
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So $U$ is open in $\mathcal{T}$.
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$T$ is finer than $T'$.
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</details>
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Back to the example:
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For every point in open circle, we can find a rectangle that contains it.
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For every point in open rectangle, we can find a circle that contains it.
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So these two topologies are equivalent.
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#### Standard topology in $\mathbb{R}^2$
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The standard topology in $\mathbb{R}^2$ is the topology generated by the basis $\mathcal{B}_{st}=\{(a,b)\times (c,d)\mid a,b,c,d\in \mathbb{R},a<b,c<d\}$. This is equivalent to the topology generated by the basis $\mathcal{B}_{disk}=\{(x,y)\in \mathbb{R}^2|d((x,y),(a,b))<r\}$.
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<details>
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<summary>Example (lower limit topology is strictly finer than the standard topology)</summary>
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The lower limit topology is the topology generated by the basis $\mathcal{B}_{ll}=\{[a,b)\mid a,b\in \mathbb{R},a<b\}$.
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This is finer than the standard topology.
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Since $(a,b)\in \mathcal{B}_{st}$, we have $\forall x\in (a,b), \exists B=[x,b)\in \mathcal{B}_{ll}$ such that $x\in B\subsetneq (a,b)$.
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So the lower limit topology is strictly finer than the standard topology.
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$[0,1)$ is not open in the standard topology. but it is open in the lower limit topology.
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</details>
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